Alice and Edmund Crimmins leaving their Kew Gardens Hills home on July 16, 1965, two days after their children “disappeared.”
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Having read the previous posts now, I just want to add that having grown up in Queens in that era - I wouldn't say she was "low class" either. Perhaps tbe prosecutors wanted to give that impression. Queens then as now (maybe a little less so now) for the mostpart was working class. The LeHarve Apartments were brand new fairly exclusive towers back then that perched out over the East River. They were thought of as pretty high class by my friend's dad who worked there every day. As for women in the work force at that time, Eric is right - few options, especially if your husband worked all day and you have two small kids. Bartending for a couple of hours a night would bring in pretty good dosh. It was a different time. My parents never left me alone at that age but believe me, it was done. People were not as righteous about children in many ways in those days. There didn't seem to be as much angst in general and people didn't expect bad things to happen. Cases like this one and then the Sharon Tate murders probably had an impact on that naivety! As an aside: In the photo you've posted Alice is carrying a Mantilla. Women used to cover their heads with these when they went to church.
I grew up in Queens. I was eight when this happened. Alice Crimmins was the stuff of nightmares to me. I didn't even know children COULD die until this happened. I remember the pictures in the paper every day. My best freind's father used to deliver mail to the family when they lived in the LeHarve Apartments in Whitestone. I think as I got older I gleaned that the general concensus was that one of her "connected" boyfriends had the children killed to get them out of his way. The presumption was that this was with her blessing.
I will have to find one of the books written on the trial, etc. Was she just another woman tried by the length of her hemline or was she really one of those rare monsters - mothers who kill their babies for their own convenience?
Alice Crimmons, do I remember her! Yes they made it look like she was the killer but s she wasn't. Wow, I remember she was living in Kew Gardens and I would flip if I ever ran into her face to face on the street! I think I'd ask her for her autograph!
I was almost 12 the summer the Crimmins children went missing. It was a horrible crime. I think there were two separate funerals, as it took a while to find Eddie. Lil Eddie and Missy are buried in Saint Raymond's. I've never believed Alice touched a hair on her childrens' heads. The manner in which this article was written is indicative of the overtly biased coverage that savagely smeared Alice. She was judged by the hypocritical morals of the day. She was not 'of lower class'. Irish Catholic.... What...? She did what any beautiful, young, estranged mother of two would do. She got a job as a barmaid. It was 1965, not 2015. A high school educated woman's best hope was secretary. Did she leave the kids asleep at home sometime...? Yes. I still view her as a responsible mother. That kind of parenting was viewed very differently 50 years ago. I have always believed that she was very skillfully framed. Ed, Sr. was not involved either. I cannot wait for my afterlife, so I can learn exactly what happened. They should be 54 and 53....
the case was so complicated. and where ever alice is today, I was very young but i remember you, and all those people who hated you. i never knew why and have grown up thinking about you. if you could read this if you could speak to me
Ron Marzlock writes "Crimmins, of lower class", that comment blew my mind. I am sure they don't teach that at Journalism school.
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